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and then romney came out -- >> and then romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly confirming in his own words through his own mouth caught on videotape, all of the worst stereotypes and kas caricatures. >> jonathan capehart, i mean, 47% we focus on that, we forget this is a guy that gets -- the greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. do you remember that one? ten others just like that. he won a big victory in florida and the next morning go on a cable news show and say something equally shocking. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> yeah. for me, the 47% video was so -- i mean, it was shocking in its brutal honesty but also how he was able to deride half the country. literally half the kcountry he said, well, i don't have to worry about those folks, they're free loaders lack iing for a handout. they don't know how to learn personal responsibility. and think about these are the people he, one, hopes to lead and, two, you would think he would want their votes. and the next d
and then romney came out -- >> and then romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly confirming in his own words through his own mouth caught on videotape, all of the worst stereotypes and kas caricatures. >> jonathan capehart, i mean, 47% we focus on that, we forget this is a guy that gets -- the greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. do you remember that one? ten others just like that. he won a big victory in...
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and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even lower. we need to teach her how to walk. she is taking up valuable cart space. aren't you, honey? [ male announcer ] it's clearance time! up to 50% off seasonal decor. 50% off toys. apparel $3 to $9. walmart. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriag
and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even...
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romney said jeep was shipping over to china and the one from super pac that seemed to blaine mitt romney. enter rick santorum. >> you than nay shah in the netherlan netherlands, but half the people who are euthanized, it's 10%. half of those people are euthanized involuntarily in hospitals because they're older and sick. and so elderly people in the netherlands don't go to hospital. they go to another country because they're afraid because of budget purposes that they will not come out of that hospital. >> don't go trying to track down statistics about involuntary you than nay shah in the never lands. now to mitt romney romney, that he hasn't paid taxes in 10 years. >> now reid said he got his information from a former bane reinvestor. he was awarded the maximum number of pinocchios. also u.n. ambassador susan rice has come to a point where circumstances led her to be taken out of the opening for secretary of state. her opening line, quite, my talking points for this evening have been provided to me and fully cleared by the intelligence communitity. what could possibly go wrong. late, qu
romney said jeep was shipping over to china and the one from super pac that seemed to blaine mitt romney. enter rick santorum. >> you than nay shah in the netherlan netherlands, but half the people who are euthanized, it's 10%. half of those people are euthanized involuntarily in hospitals because they're older and sick. and so elderly people in the netherlands don't go to hospital. they go to another country because they're afraid because of budget purposes that they will not come out of...
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romney said jeep was shipping american joshs over to jobs over to china and the one from the superpac that seemed to blame bain capital for the death of this workers life. enter, rick santorum. >> euthanasia in the netherlands, but half the people who are euthanized, it's 10%. of all deaths, half of those people are euthanized involuntarily at hospitals so they are older and sick. and so elderly people in the netherlands don't go to hospital. they go to another country because they're afraid because of budget purposes that they will not come out of that hospital. >> don't go trying to track down statistics about involuntary euthanasia in the netherlands. you will find no such facts. now, to harry reid. he made the rounds saying that mitt romney didn't pay taxes for ten years. >> the word is out that he hasn't paid any taxes for ten years. let me him that he has paid taxes, because he hasn't. >> now reid said he got his information from a former bane investor. without any further explanation, he was awarded the maximum number of pinocchios. also u.n. ambassador susan rice has come to t
romney said jeep was shipping american joshs over to jobs over to china and the one from the superpac that seemed to blame bain capital for the death of this workers life. enter, rick santorum. >> euthanasia in the netherlands, but half the people who are euthanized, it's 10%. of all deaths, half of those people are euthanized involuntarily at hospitals so they are older and sick. and so elderly people in the netherlands don't go to hospital. they go to another country because they're...
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i was never a big romney fan. i didn't have a personal problem with him, but i never thought of him as authentic. the one time i caught him in iowa signing people's posters and it was a rainy day. i said to him can you say let them eat cake in french. it's the ultimate side of being above everyone else. he says i can, but i won't. and he wouldn't look up at me. he's so trained and disciplined. he wanted me to know he was fluent enough in french, but he wasn't going to be stupid enough to do it on camera saying let them eat cake in french. should we believe he didn't really go for it with all he had? >> they said take a month and understand the campaign. you have to understand this is a private man going for the most public job in the country. and he did not want to talk about certain things in his life. and his campaign strategist did not want to talk about his mormon faith and background. >> we knew that about his business career embarrassing. the mormonism is i think a credit to the democrats. nobody likes to be
i was never a big romney fan. i didn't have a personal problem with him, but i never thought of him as authentic. the one time i caught him in iowa signing people's posters and it was a rainy day. i said to him can you say let them eat cake in french. it's the ultimate side of being above everyone else. he says i can, but i won't. and he wouldn't look up at me. he's so trained and disciplined. he wanted me to know he was fluent enough in french, but he wasn't going to be stupid enough to do it...
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. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his campaign staff and top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable incumbent president, the oldest son of the former massachusetts governor is raising eyebrows about his dad's initial reluctance to make a second white house run. in a story published in the "boston globe" tagg romney said his father, quote, wanted to be president less than anyone. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. "boston globe" reporter michael krenish interviewed tagg romney. >> i know there were serious discussions at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition
. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his...
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. >>> surprising comments from mitt romney's oldest son tagg romney. >>> but first the fight over aid for hurricanes sandy victims. the republicans offered ♪ [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind auto
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romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's the talk of the 47%, free stuff, and the latest from tagg romney that apparently his dad never really wanted the job anyway, right? >> the clown car is so stuffed what mall aproposeisms and other stuff. we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who wil
romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of...
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on the verge of gun control, first, nut gingrich things he can do a couple things better that amitt romney. and that means running for president. my waist was on. but since i've been on alli, am i on this one? nope. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. have a healthier holiday at letsfightholidayfat.com. when you give a child a toy, it has to work. ♪ make just one someone happy and when it's a toys for tots child, well, what could be more important? so this year, every hasbro toy donated to toys for tots will be powered by duracell. happy holidays. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >> let's take a visit to the political playground, newt gingrich blames the republican party for fostering a corrosive culture that pushed romney as a candidate. he said that he and rick perry would done better running against obama. a new station finds that senator scott brown is i
on the verge of gun control, first, nut gingrich things he can do a couple things better that amitt romney. and that means running for president. my waist was on. but since i've been on alli, am i on this one? nope. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. have a healthier holiday...
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we saw the blame game following mitt romney's loss. but as we approach the new year, the gop has switched between those who want to avoid going over the cliff rather than a tax increase. public opinion of the party is changing as cnn opinion research poll out this week shows a majority of americans, 53%, say republican party policies are too extreme. back in 2010, that number was only 39%. joy reed is managing editor of the the grio and steven moore is an editorial writer for the wall street journal. joy, react to the news of what went on last night with speaker boehner, the president's response to it today and what it all says about the gop and the strife within the poorty. >> well, michael, first of all, it was stunning. in court, you never put a witness on the stand unless you know what they're going to say. you just had eric canter, the house majority leader saying the day before that they were going to pass that he had the votes. does he not communicate? do these guys not talk to each other? i don't understand how john boehner all
we saw the blame game following mitt romney's loss. but as we approach the new year, the gop has switched between those who want to avoid going over the cliff rather than a tax increase. public opinion of the party is changing as cnn opinion research poll out this week shows a majority of americans, 53%, say republican party policies are too extreme. back in 2010, that number was only 39%. joy reed is managing editor of the the grio and steven moore is an editorial writer for the wall street...
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." >> can mitt romney self deport himself into the oval office? >> carl rove thinks he's conspireing with the easter bunny. >> is the republican party fired up and ready to go? >> wednesday, june 14th. wednesday, december 7th. >> and this is "now." >> this year the grand old party gifted us the grand old clown car. time to bring in steady eddie, aka rick santorum. seems to be in the throws of a tantorum. i say hot garbage. mitt romney, the kaiser of the republican party. message to newt gingrich, no hold's bar. that was my addendum. the angry teddy bear, newt gingrich. the angry teddy bear, the angry attack muffin. i noticed you liked to call him that as well. >> i stole that from you. >> you are the creator of the angry teddy bear comparison with newt gingrich. >> for that, i expect to be charging more higher rates in the coming months. >> as the primaries produce new names, so did our show. >> the effortlessly elegant jonathan capehart. eternally buzzy ben smith. ari melber. steve. queen bee and managing editor of the sunday morning himself. fav
." >> can mitt romney self deport himself into the oval office? >> carl rove thinks he's conspireing with the easter bunny. >> is the republican party fired up and ready to go? >> wednesday, june 14th. wednesday, december 7th. >> and this is "now." >> this year the grand old party gifted us the grand old clown car. time to bring in steady eddie, aka rick santorum. seems to be in the throws of a tantorum. i say hot garbage. mitt romney, the...
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he did himself and his reputation a lot of damage as the vice presidential nominee running with mitt romney. he had this rnc speech that was basically packed with lies. he got on the debate stage with joe biden and i think biden definitely got the better of him. i think even republicans who maybe didn't see biden wiping the floor with him quite the way that i did, felt a little dispoupted. they have little respect for joe biden's intellect, they thought paul ryan would come in and wipe the floor with him. that definitely didn't happen. interestingly, paul ryan has been largely absent. i mean, really, almost completely absent and silent during the fiscal cliff negotiations. so what do you think we're going to see out of him in 2013? >> certainly he's not where he wanted to be, which is working out of the white house, but, you know, i think he has been -- you're right he hasn't been maybe very vocal in terms of making press statements but he's somebody speaker john boehner looked it, when you're in the capitol, he's in huddles with other lawmakers and they definitely still respect. the idea t
he did himself and his reputation a lot of damage as the vice presidential nominee running with mitt romney. he had this rnc speech that was basically packed with lies. he got on the debate stage with joe biden and i think biden definitely got the better of him. i think even republicans who maybe didn't see biden wiping the floor with him quite the way that i did, felt a little dispoupted. they have little respect for joe biden's intellect, they thought paul ryan would come in and wipe the...
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romney's eldest song tag along with ann romney who had to we are said him to run. he was quoted as saying he wanted to be president less than anyone i know in my life h.no desire to run. if he could have found somebody else to take his place he would have been ecstatic to step aside. what do you make of this? >> my eyes opened on that story because we know that mitt romney has run twice for the presidency. there were seven or eight other candidates very willing to take the lead there during the primary season. you know what's interesting about these postmortem store sis all of a sudden the campaign comes clean here's what we missed and didn't know. the romney campaign in this story today talking about, you know, we're surprised by obama's get out the vote strength and everybody was talking about that during the campaign. they pledged they were able to match that obama machine and that they had learned from john mccain's unsuccessful effort four years before so i didn't find all of it all that convincing, people trying to look back now and, you know, i think what is
romney's eldest song tag along with ann romney who had to we are said him to run. he was quoted as saying he wanted to be president less than anyone i know in my life h.no desire to run. if he could have found somebody else to take his place he would have been ecstatic to step aside. what do you make of this? >> my eyes opened on that story because we know that mitt romney has run twice for the presidency. there were seven or eight other candidates very willing to take the lead there...
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rom mitt romney? don't bet on it. the angry man or woman in the back row of the tea party, the angry one that stands up and scolds him, you betrayed us, you are one of them. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership or worse yet, the democratic president, or the one who voted against all of that and stayed true to the purity of the tea party dogma, no taxes, no deals, no compromises, no nothing, period. this is the wall the tea party have raised up, the wall beyond which people who captured. what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within o
rom mitt romney? don't bet on it. the angry man or woman in the back row of the tea party, the angry one that stands up and scolds him, you betrayed us, you are one of them. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership or worse yet, the democratic president, or the one who voted against all of that and stayed true to the purity of the tea party dogma, no taxes, no deals, no compromises, no nothing, period. this is the wall the tea party have raised up, the wall beyond which...
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white women in the south were the ones voting for mitt romney. white women in the northeast were voting for obama. that's actually why -- so there is absolutely, a racial -- a nonracialized yesterday logical divide among why this. i think that's -- we always focus on what's going on idealogically with people of color. what about white people? >> this is the key thing. when you start slicing and dicing the data and look at exit polling data and we have the categories that are fixed in hour head to look for, african-american and white and we find the divisions, nothing ever jumps out at me more than the regional difference. when you break the country up into regions you have one yooisht lier. the south. the south has different politics than the rest of the country and i think eye guys would agree with that. >> the south is culturally conservative i would argue. and i think that that's what makes georgia a difficult state for democrats regardless of race. and i think it's also what provides an opportunity for republicans in terms of reaching hispani
white women in the south were the ones voting for mitt romney. white women in the northeast were voting for obama. that's actually why -- so there is absolutely, a racial -- a nonracialized yesterday logical divide among why this. i think that's -- we always focus on what's going on idealogically with people of color. what about white people? >> this is the key thing. when you start slicing and dicing the data and look at exit polling data and we have the categories that are fixed in hour...
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. >> this is really hard core ideology in play, folks who i think like mitt romney when he was talking about the 47%, like paul ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false. i hate 20 go too far on a holiday metaphor, but if you go back and you read charles dickens, you see where the two gentlemen come to visit ebenezer scrooge on christmas eve and suggest to him that he might want to give a little to
. >> this is really hard core ideology in play, folks who i think like mitt romney when he was talking about the 47%, like paul ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false. i hate 20 go too far on a holiday metaphor, but if you go back and you read charles dickens, you see where the two gentlemen come to visit...
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in the lengthy campaign review in "the boston globe," the eldest romney son was quoted as saying, in part, "he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. if he could have found swums om else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. he is a very private person who loves his family deeply and has deep faith in god and he loves his country, but he doesn't love the country. >> mitt romney was horribly miscast as a candidate. we all realize that now. >> i'm biased that he's saying something in the vicinity of truth. >> really? >> you know, of course, he's been running for president for seven years. of course, he's an adult, and he decided he's running for president, but this lack -- this obvious manifest lack of fire in the belly, the fact that he knows in no way is he a natural politician, mitt romney -- >> you're kidding. >> i think there's some -- there's a disinclination, he wanted to be president less than anyone i know, i think that tag is getting at something true there, yeah. >> don't you think that no one gets into p
in the lengthy campaign review in "the boston globe," the eldest romney son was quoted as saying, in part, "he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. if he could have found swums om else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. he is a very private person who loves his family deeply and has deep faith in god and he loves his country, but he doesn't love the country. >> mitt romney was horribly miscast as a...
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. >> this is really hard core ideology in play, folks who i think like mitt romney when he was talking about the 47%, like paul ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false.
. >> this is really hard core ideology in play, folks who i think like mitt romney when he was talking about the 47%, like paul ryan when he was talking about makers versus takers there are an awful lot of folks in congress that folks are unemployed because they want to be unemployed, because they're lazy or something like that. it's simply false.
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steve schmidt, john mccain's campaign manager said if mitt romney lost the election, there would be civil war within the republican party. this is what we are seeing now. what was so weird about the last episode is this caucus was in a room which was virtually like fantasyland. they were arguing over a proposal that made no sense and that was going nowhere. it had -- they are like tearing each other apart over it. this is a party that not only i love your line where you said they weren't able to achieve partisanship. this is a party that is no longer capable of governing. >> right. >> you can't let them be part of the process if they are going to behave like that. >> that's the point. if they can't pass a bill that exempted $999,999 of increases, what can they do? >> i think it saved obama from himself. the deal he was offering to bear, to raise taxes on people making $400,000 was a really bad one, right? now we get to come back to a new congress. you know, what he needs to find is get the house democratic caucus in line and pick up 20 republican votes in the house. 17 republican votes in
steve schmidt, john mccain's campaign manager said if mitt romney lost the election, there would be civil war within the republican party. this is what we are seeing now. what was so weird about the last episode is this caucus was in a room which was virtually like fantasyland. they were arguing over a proposal that made no sense and that was going nowhere. it had -- they are like tearing each other apart over it. this is a party that not only i love your line where you said they weren't able...
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over 95% of these caucus members come from districts that romney carried. most come with over 55% of the vote nape ear not threatened, but they feel that a bad deal is worse than no deal. >> so that means that they are deciding for political reasons about -- >> no. i think they have philosophical reasons that feel that putting taxes on small businesses at this point is bad for the country and bad for the economy. nobody wants to go over the cliff. the problem is the leaders haven't been able to craft something the other side will accept to avert it. >> so this group, you suggest they think going over the fiscal cliff is a better solution out there? >> well, i think the president's made that calculation, too, that a bad deal, because they haven't been able to come up and compromise enough to do it. both sides still have to move substantially. i don't think anybody purposely wants to go off, martin, but you're not going to take a bad deal. i think from the republican perspective without the accompanying spending cuts this was just not going to fly. >> tom is
over 95% of these caucus members come from districts that romney carried. most come with over 55% of the vote nape ear not threatened, but they feel that a bad deal is worse than no deal. >> so that means that they are deciding for political reasons about -- >> no. i think they have philosophical reasons that feel that putting taxes on small businesses at this point is bad for the country and bad for the economy. nobody wants to go over the cliff. the problem is the leaders haven't...